The Christian Noob (n00b)

born & raised Catholic, now going to a Presbyterian church & still learning

walking by a Lutheran church: born dead in sin

I’m still slowly reading “This We Believe” ( while taking notes and highlighting key parts of the text. In any event, I just found a little something that bothers me.

“5. We believe that Adam and Eve lost their divine image when they yielded to the temptation of Satan and disobeyed God’s command. This brought upon them the judgment of God: “You will surely die” (Genesis 2:17). Since that time all people are conceived and born in a sinful condition (Psalm 51:5) and are inclined only to evil (Genesis 8:21). “Flesh gives birth to flesh” (John 3:6). Since all people are by nature dead in sin and separated from God (Ephesians 2:1), they are unable to reconcile themselves to God by their own efforts and deeds.”

There are two schools of though on this regard.

  1. One says that we’re born in sin and hence evil by default. Therefore we need to break out of our human nature and flesh. This seems to be Lutheran perspective. Even if my interpretation were dead wrong, I don’t like the whole fire and brimstone gimmick (
  2. In the other hand, the other school of thought teaches us that we’re good by nature ( and we need to escape sin to be back with God. This is more likely the Presbyterian point of view. After all, I believe and want to believe in a loving God, not a vengeful God ( I just hope I’m not wrong.

As a disclaimer, I must emphasize that my opinion’s no means a way or form of offense to anyone reading or not reading this or any text I’ve written.


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