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Sunday series: 01/04/2009 (#16A)

Where: All Saints Episcopal Church at 10am

Bible readings:

“7 For thus saith the Lord; Sing with gladness for Jacob, and shout among the chief of the nations: publish ye, praise ye, and say, O Lord, save thy people, the remnant of Israel. 8 Behold, I will bring them from the north country, and gather them from the coasts of the earth, and with them the blind and the lame, the woman with child and her that travaileth with child together: a great company shall return thither. 9 They shall come with weeping, and with supplications will I lead them: I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters in a straight way, wherein they shall not stumble: for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn. 10 Hear the word of the Lord, O ye nations, and declare it in the isles afar off, and say, He that scattered Israel will gather him, and keep him, as a shepherd doth his flock. 11 For the Lord hath redeemed Jacob, and ransomed him from the hand of him that was stronger than he. 12 Therefore they shall come and sing in the height of Zion, and shall flow together to the goodness of the Lord, for wheat, and for wine, and for oil, and for the young of the flock and of the herd: and their soul shall be as a watered garden; and they shall not sorrow any more at all. 13 Then shall the virgin rejoice in the dance, both young men and old together: for I will turn their mourning into joy, and will comfort them, and make them rejoice from their sorrow. 14 And I will satiate the soul of the priests with fatness, and my people shall be satisfied with my goodness, saith the Lord.” (Jeremiah 31:7-14 KJV)

“3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: 4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: 5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, 6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
15 Wherefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus, and love unto all the saints, 16 Cease not to give thanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers; 17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him: 18 The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints, 19 And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power, “
(Ephesians 1:3-6, 15-19 KJV)

The Gospel:

“13 And when they were departed, behold, the angel of the Lord appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and flee into Egypt, and be thou there until I bring thee word: for Herod will seek the young child to destroy him. 14 When he arose, he took the young child and his mother by night, and departed into Egypt: 15 And was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son.
19 But when Herod was dead, behold, an angel of the Lord appeareth in a dream to Joseph in Egypt, 20 Saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and go into the land of Israel: for they are dead which sought the young child’s life. 21 And he arose, and took the young child and his mother, and came into the land of Israel. 22 But when he heard that Archelaus did reign in Judaea in the room of his father Herod, he was afraid to go thither: notwithstanding, being warned of God in a dream, he turned aside into the parts of Galilee: 23 And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene.”
(Matthew 2:13-15,19-23 KJV)

Comments then:

  1. Arrived at 9:30am, still during preparations for the service (inc. music arrangements)
  2. Small church, not as big as St. Thomas (also Episcopal) — yet rich folks environment & [no] youngsters.
    • about the size of a brownstone house with wooden floors
    • has the Stations of the Cross like a Catholic Church with a big cross without Christ, with an aura and a Star of David on a stained-glass window.
  3. Sort of informal, yet singing in Latin or aria-like English;
  4. Traditional small parish construction and feel;
  5. Perhaps too similar to a Catholic church, not comfortable to ask questions here;
  6. People not fond of beggar who came in at about 9:45am (same beggar whom I met last Sunday by FAPC), practically driven out.
  7. This congregation does bow when facing the altar (place where God resides) as in [a] Catholic church.
  8. The service starts with a song, the vicars coming through the middle aisle, then the Sign of the Cross with the vicar and no announcement.
  9. clear separation between clergy and congregation;
  10. continuous references to Christmas — not the Three Wise Men or anything else;
  11. congregation standing & Sign of the Cross [while reciting the Gospel];
  12. comparison between Christ and Moses
    • Moses came to free the Jews from the pharaohs.
    • Christ came to free us from sin.
  13. similar tradition of kneeling when the bread & wine are presented.
  14. out at 11:08am.

Comments now:

  1. It was an interesting service, but I didn’t like it. Strangely enough I returned the following week to make sure that I didn’t like it. I could’ve been wrong.
  2. After this service, I went to FAPC.
  3. Note my comments are my own. They’re in no way a criticism on the Episcopal tradition.

One response to “Sunday series: 01/04/2009 (#16A)

  1. Rina Mosquera 04/09/2013 at 20:07:45

    Perfecta la aclaración que hace, sus comentarios son sus comentarios, que no significan criticas a la tradición episcopal, felicitaciones, asi es como se debe de comentar.

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