The Christian Noob (n00b)

born & raised Catholic, now going to a Presbyterian church & still learning

Sunday series: 11/21/2009 (#61D)

Ephesus Seventh-day Adventist Chruch, by Matthew Kiernan at New York Big Apple ImagesWhere: Ephesus Seventh-day Adventist Church at 11am (Saturday, not Sunday)

Bible reading:

“6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, 7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.” (Revelation 14:6-7 KJV)

“1 The earth is the Lord’s, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein.” (Psalms 24:1 KJV)

“8 The silver is mine, and the gold is mine, saith the Lord of hosts.” (Haggai 2:8 KJV)

“2 Moreover it is required in stewards, that a man be found faithful.” (1 Corinthians 4:2 KJV)

“38 Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again. (Luke 6:38 KJV)

Comments then:

  1. a bit over two hours
  2. Accepting a person as a member by
    • coming to the church,
    • filling out the form on the right [no idea what I meant],
    • then elders greeting the new member with the right hand
    • and hugging the new member.
  3. Two collections of offerings — 10% for ministries around the world & 5% for the church Ephesus [15% in all]
  4. Sermon Notes: [section for congregants to write what they want, similar to what I all over the FAPC bulleting almost every Sunday.
  5. Name of Sermon: The Place of the Weepers

Comments now:

  1. not my cup of tea… yet had to investigate… almost unwelcoming to strangers… almost insulting!
  2. Since I’m not familiar with the denomination, I did some research, which took me several days.

    “The Seventh-day Adventist Church is a Protestant Christian denomination distinguished by its observance of Saturday, the original seventh day of the Judeo-Christian week, as the Sabbath, and by its emphasis on the imminent second coming (advent) of Jesus Christ. The denomination grew out of the Millerite movement in the United States during the middle part of the 19th century and was formally established in 1863. Among its founders was Ellen G. White, whose extensive writings are still held in high regard by the church today.
    Much of the theology of the Seventh-day Adventist Church corresponds to Protestant Christian teachings such as the Trinity and the infallibility of Scripture. Distinctive teachings include the unconscious state of the dead and the doctrine of an investigative judgment. The church is also known for its emphasis on diet and health, its holistic understanding of the person, its promotion of religious liberty, and its conservative principles and lifestyle.
    The world church is governed by a General Conference, with smaller regions administered by divisions, union conferences and local conferences. It currently has a worldwide baptized membership of about 17.2 million people. As of May 2007, it was the twelfth-largest religious body in the world, and the sixth-largest highly international religious body. It has a missionary presence in over 200 countries and territories and is ethnically and culturally diverse. The church operates numerous schools, hospitals and publishing houses worldwide, as well as a humanitarian aid organization known as the Adventist Development and Relief Agency (ADRA).”

  3. Its fundamental beliefs are similar to those of almost every single Christian denomination.

    “”Seventh-day Adventists accept the Bible as their only creed and hold certain fundamental beliefs to be the teaching of the Holy Scriptures. These beliefs, as set forth here, constitute the church’s understanding and expression of the teaching of Scripture. Revision of these statements may be expected at a General Conference session when the church is led by the Holy Spirit to a fuller understanding of Bible truth or finds better language in which to express the teachings of God’s Holy Word.”

  4. The fundamental beliefs are similar to those of almost every single Christian denomination. The following are the verses (in biblical order) that this denomination is based on.

    “105 Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.” (Psalms 119:105 KJV)

    “5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. 6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.” (Proverbs 30:5-6 KJV)

    “20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.” (Isaiah 8:20 KJV)

    “12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.” (Hebrews 4:12 KJV)

    17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. (John 17:17 KJV)

    “13 For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.” (1 Thessalonians 2:13 KJV)

    “16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.” (2 Timothy 3:16-17 KJV)

    “20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.” (2 Peter 1:20-21 KJV)

  5. The denomination emphasizes on the following aspects — especially to what my ignorance concludes a strong interest of the end of times (fire & brimstone, Book of Revelation), which turns me off. As I mentioned before in this same post, the belief of this denomination are similar to those of any other Protestant church. The biggest difference is its strong interest in end of times — almost like their shtick. My biggest (personal problem that I’ve got is its creed based on verses of all over the Bible, picked and chosen from here and there, as if to accommodate a certain ideology. Needless to say, in our curiosity to see and experience how other churches worship God, my friends from FAPC and I weren’t made to feel welcome. I don’t care about coming back to this or any other Adventist church. By the way, this post was going to be much longer, but I opted to cut it as it was not worth the huge effort.

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