The Christian Noob (n00b)

born & raised Catholic, now going to a Presbyterian church & still learning

Sunday series: 02/21/2010 (#74A)

Where: Fifth Avenue Presbyterian Church at 11am

Bible reading:

“1 And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness, 2 Being forty days tempted of the devil. And in those days he did eat nothing: and when they were ended, he afterward hungered. 3 And the devil said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, command this stone that it be made bread. 4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God. 5 And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. 6 And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it. 7 If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine. 8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. 9 And he brought him to Jerusalem, and set him on a pinnacle of the temple, and said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down from hence: 10 For it is written, He shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee: 11 And in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone. 12 And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God. 13 And when the devil had ended all the temptation, he departed from him for a season.” (Luke 4:1-13 KJV)

Comments then:

  1. First Sunday in Lent
  2. Jesus went to the wilderness to pray and [was] tempted by the devil for 40 days and 40 nights [regarding Luke 4:1-13].

Comments now:

  1. Once again, we see the symbolism of the number forty (40).

5 responses to “Sunday series: 02/21/2010 (#74A)

  1. Christadelphians 06/06/2013 at 06:50:14

    Here we get a nice proof of the humanness of Jesus. God can not be seen and not be tempted, but Jesus was seen by many and was tempted in his life more than once. He resisted all those temptations and proofed that a man could be faithful to the One and Only One God, Jehovah, Jesus and our Father, who is eternal and as such can not die, but Jesus really did for all our sins.

    • Frank Olvera (aka "The Christian Noob") 06/06/2013 at 08:02:55

      Yet some outsiders don’t understand this. It’s so simple! Do you have any idea why outsiders are so stubborn or perhaps too dumb to understand?

  2. Christadelphians 06/06/2013 at 11:54:53

    The problem of the stubbornness of men is that they do not want to be confronted with the [fact] that for many years they believed something wrong, or worst that they were lured in believing certain things which were brought unto them by certain denominations. The other difficulty is that when they come to be confronted by try Truth, they have to change their live and have to abandon certain traditions. This is were the Bible speaks of being of the world. Many people do not want to leave the world behind and be happy by the Biblical teachings.

    • Frank Olvera (aka "The Christian Noob") 06/06/2013 at 12:51:55

      Yet I must ask for facts.
      How do we know we’re right? The Bible tells us so, but how do we really know?
      I can’t change my atheist friends or Pagan friends. They have their own truths (if any).

  3. Christadelphians 06/07/2013 at 01:16:19

    Atheists have their own truths and do have also different believes. Some are ardent Darwinists others Big Bang theorists, and by them we also do find many variations of believes.

    To reach so called non-believers and to bring them to come to see there exist a God can be brought forward by going back to nature and to look at the beauty of our surroundings, questioning the ‘how’ and ‘why’ and confronting them of what is written in the Book of Job.

    Some of the heathen do believe in reincarnation or an afterlife, but those and the ones who think it is finished when we are death, you can confront with the Wisdom literature of the Holy Scriptures where much is written about the status of the dead. Confronting the non-believers with the fact that the Bible also says that when people die they have paid for their sins and that it is finished they will be surprised to hear that the Word of God also tells us that we shall return to become like dust, and that there is no separation of the soul, or extra dimension of our body that would go to heaven or an other space. The soul is just the breath of life, and when we die our breathing stops and we shall not be able to think or do anything with all the treasures we gathered in our life. When they notice such a hard saying, they will be surprised to find that by a Christian, because most of them think Christians think they shall go to heaven when they die.

    Confronted with the other idea they see that their idea of men finding death gets an other dimension in our believe, which becomes so much richer and could also be much more valuable for their life. Slowly brining in Biblical teachings and showing them how people changed those teachings to fit their fantasies, they shall come to understand and accept their being on this earth more, and will b open more to listen to biblical teaching, we think.

    Though we do agree that it is ‘damn hard’ to get people to listen to such a Biblical teaching, if when we try to convince them to take those writings (at first) as literary works like they also would read some Buddhist or other spiritual books. But when we can present them as ‘other spiritual books’ they shall be easier convinced to look at them and to discuss them with you or us in a study. It creates more opportunities to come to study those 66 books. Even when we regularly have to compare them with other worldly books. Being not afraid of such a confrontation we shall be able to come out stronger and to let them see that the bible has much more consistence and more value to be trusted. It only demands lots of time, the preparedness to listen and patience from our side.

    It also demands humbleness to dare to agree that we have all sorts of things we can not know and we do not know. Showing to them that you are aware of those unknown facts and be willing to accept that at certain matters you and other people may be of different opinion will give you more credibility.Perhaps at first they shall consider this as one of your and our weaknesses, but after some time they shall come to consider it more as a being honest, and honesty is the most important factor in trying to convince others of your credibility.

    We wish you lots of success by spreading the Word of God and do hope you, we and many others all over the world shall have the patience to reach out and help people to grow and to make the best of their life and by their change of character will bring also better things to the others around them.

    God bless.

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